Hi hepcat,
No, I don't know those folks. However, I was in one of your neighboring states (Marshalltown, Iowa) in the sixties. Our young (in his late 20's) circuit overseer, a Paul Valenzuela, was (I thought) from the Chicago area.
Check out my Bethel (and CO's and DO's, etc) list. You are now included and become number 83.
Len Miller
at least "the name" is being kept before the people..
What bothers me about all the headlines that I've seen in that " ... Jehovah's Witnesses are guilty ...", or some such. I can hear the sheeples now, "Oh, this is just another incident of persecution because one of our members sinned".
The fact is, it's Watchtower who appears to be mostly responsible -- holds the primary culpability. It is the corporation's leadership (not the rank and file) who dictated the policy that got them into this mess.
Len
is this recent?
http://www.silentlambs.org/oaklandlawsuit.htm.
i havent seen anyone post about it, the link has a pdf on it of the court documents, and it looks like the stamp is from 5/12 but its blurry.. .
is this recent?
http://www.silentlambs.org/oaklandlawsuit.htm.
i havent seen anyone post about it, the link has a pdf on it of the court documents, and it looks like the stamp is from 5/12 but its blurry.. .
Is there a spin doctor in the house?
is this recent?
http://www.silentlambs.org/oaklandlawsuit.htm.
i havent seen anyone post about it, the link has a pdf on it of the court documents, and it looks like the stamp is from 5/12 but its blurry.. .
I can hear it now from the platform. "Brothers, this persecution is evidence that we're so near the end. A 7 million dollar judgement symbolizes perfection. Jehovah must be telling us something with such a number. All it will take is a dollar from each of us."
is this recent?
http://www.silentlambs.org/oaklandlawsuit.htm.
i havent seen anyone post about it, the link has a pdf on it of the court documents, and it looks like the stamp is from 5/12 but its blurry.. .
it won't let me cut and paste . is this function restricted for new members?
If you're talking about that cartoon image -- if you're using Windows simply right click and follow the menu.
Len
is this recent?
http://www.silentlambs.org/oaklandlawsuit.htm.
i havent seen anyone post about it, the link has a pdf on it of the court documents, and it looks like the stamp is from 5/12 but its blurry.. .
Is this a bad time to appeal for funds?
often during wt/book studies and/or public talks i would be following along and note little discrepancies and inconsistencies.
perhaps it was a scripture that didn't really support the point being asserted in the paragraph or maybe it was an illustration that sounded good but wasn't completely parallel or maybe it was a line of reasoning that wasn't as conclusive or solid as the speaker/elder/co/wt publication made it out to be.
or maybe it was the excessive use of weasel words like, "evidently," "perhaps," "must have" and so on.
Wonderful telling of a tragic tale. Thanks for being brave enough to finally make the break. It sounds as if you did so with an intelligence that many of us don't have. You also have the gift to write clearly with well-organized thoughts.
Sure, you acknowledge making errors along the way. Yes, we're all human, aren't we?
Again -- I'm impressed. Again -- thanks.
Len Miller
my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 1 .
my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 2 .
my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 3
Unfortunately, when I found it I couldn’t open links for parts 1 and 3 of his story (can anyone help me with that?).
Hit Sinedie,
This is the first time I read his story and it was very well written. Thanks Simon and, of course, Angherad (spelling?).
To read the other parts, use Google search and try the following search terms -- quotation marks are important.
"and how JWD came to be" "Part 1" simon
Use the above for parts 2, 3, and 4 -- substituting the appropriate number.
Len
Any other guesses?
Yeah -- THE GREAT WATCHTOWER CONTRADICTION essay is an 11 minute read, aimed for new ones but will give the diehard JW something to fear when he ventures out to the next door.
Len
